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One final bug to report: Using Firefox 3 on Vista, the keyboard arrow keys don’t work in the tag text area.

After looking through the work you’ve done here and also at the RIS format, it breaks down into two propositions – refining the RIS importing feature to better handle cases like this, and better handling of Connotea data sets for people transferring their references or accounts.

I can report that we are now investigating both – the further inspection of the complexities of RIS came at the behest of your post, and I thank you for pointing this out. We are now scheduling investigation time for developing and implementing better RIS handling.

On the second count – of course 2collab is not a walled garden and we want to make it easy as possible for people to join our platform, and leave it should they wish to do so. Using other sites’ APIs to ease this transition may be the most user friendly way of doing it, and we will definitely take up this analysis.

Thanks for the personal time and effort on this.

ATB
-Brant

What my experiments here suggest is that 2collab just uses whatever it finds in the .RIS file straight, instead of matching entries in the .RIS with journals in their database and actually using the citation information from the database. That’s the kind of input validation needed to fix problems with differently named fields and missing information, but I understand how it’s much more of a computational load than just parsing whatever the .RIS file says and assuming it’s correct and complete.

Would you agree, Brant?

What I expect to happen is that the citation information is displayed beneath the title, and the DOI, if present, is used as the link for the title, falling back to using whatever is in the UR field only if there’s no DOI. Would this be too hard to implement, perhaps just for the case of the Connotea import, or should I just get busy with the find and replace again? I’m thinking that that still won’t solve the problem of the citation information not being displayed.

Edited to remove potentially confusing incorrect assumptions, see next post.

And for the titles problem: it appears that us and connotea use a different tag for primary title: we use T1, they use TI. If in the RIS file all occurrences of TI are replaced with T1, the titles will
be imported properly (a quick “find and replace” for all occurrences of TI with T1 will do). We have actually done this for you – and can send you a fixed RIS file if you let me know your email address.

But this is good feedback, and we will enhance the RIS import to include other title variations possible. So we’ll include not only T1, TI, but also BT, CT, etc.

Also, I do recommend deleting first everything imported before trying again: go to ‘my bookmarks’, filter everything by the tag ‘connotea’ (if this is what was used at import) and click on the delete button.

Hope this helps – and glad to surprise you with an info provider reply!
ATB
-Brant

Compare the bookmarks tagged connotea with the one I imported via Scopus ID.

Posting here works just as well as email, probably better, in fact, since I get an email when a comment comes in. What I’m going to do next is to delete everything I’ve tagged connotea(if possible), remove the UR:isi record from the .RIS file, and try again.

Yes, it was importing via the Connotea option, which consists of .RIS export from Connotea and import of the .RIS file, and I’m using Firefox 3 on Vista.

I think the last time I tried, I could import the .RIS file from Connotea to Zotero, then export that again as .RIS, and import that file to 2collab, but not only did I get an error, the file uploaded anyways, with missing tags, and left me with no batch delete option to go back and try the upload again.

All the social bookmarking services bring a little something different, and it really is nice how 2collab leverages the existing data they have to add contextual information to your bookmarks. I hope these remaining issues get ironed out soon.

The reason the import does not work is because of this reference, specifically invalid URL format UR – isi:000221143200012, see below:

TY – JOUR
TI – Mesenchymal-epithelial interactions in the skin: increased expression of dickkopf1 by palmoplantar fibroblasts inhibits melanocyte growth and differentiation
AU – Yamaguchi, Y.
AU – Itami, S.
AU – Watabe, H.
AU – Yasumoto, K.
AU – Abdel-Malek, Z.A.
AU – Kubo, T.
AU – Rouzaud, F.
AU – Tanemura, A.
AU – Yoshikawa, K.
AU – Hearing, V.J.
PY – 2004/xx/xx
N2 – J
KW – MICROPHTHALMIA
KW – beta-catenin
KW – MITF
KW – transcription factor
KW – neural crest
KW – differentiation
KW – Wnt
KW – dkk1
JF – Journal of Cell Biology
JO – J.Cell Biol.
VL – 165
IS – 2
SP – 275
EP – 285
UR – isi:000221143200012

To help other cases of this – we are now investigating developing a feature that will catch-pool these when you import, so it won’t stop the whole importing process. You’ll be able to review these exclusions later.

Hope this helps.
ATB
-Brant, 2collab

I just read your post – and I’ve asked our technical team to investigate, but in the meantime, could I just check a few assumptions: Was this importing bookmarks via the Connotea option? Are there any other details you remember? Are you using a Mac?
I will get back to you when we’ve fixed it. Thanks for pointing it out. But I do hope you will change your mind and give us another try! You’ll see we are very different from Connotea in blending together a reference management, collaboration and networking tool in one space.
With best regards
-Brant

Brant Emery, development manager, 2collab